I got a comment on the last post from Ving Chun Kuen via my email:
“Toi Da? Can you give a simple description. His order/method seems interesting.”
Sifu Lam’s method (at least the one that came down to me) was to teach Bong Sau recoveries. You are attacked from a bad angle and throw up the “wrong” bong (your flank is exposed).
So you have reflex actions you put into your body to attack from this bad position immediately upon finding yourself there.
The order I gave was random. There are four possible Wing Chun responses to the situation, all attacks: Pak Da, Lap Da, Tan Da, or Toi Da.
You’ll do one and go from there.
For the bong to be “wrong,” the punch must be from the opposite arm. He punches with his left and I defend with my right arm as a bong (or vise versa). So in the case above (his left, my right), I turn toward my right while catching him by the wrist with my right hand (no thumb) and pull his arm across his body with my arm completely straight.
The ending position is good for a push with his arm straight, your arm straight, his facing offline, and putting your left hand on his left shoulder with your elbow down you can take position.
Dear Steven, what is “toi da”? I tried to google it, and can’t find it.
Steven Moody says
Say you are facing your opponent. He hits with a right – you catch it on the outside of your right arm (lap-style) but instead of pulling it to your waist (lap) you straighten your arm and rotate to your right, straightening his right arm out completely and making him very wrong. Toi da is also hitting the head with the left at the same time.
This turns up in Gary Lam’s 9 Hands drill.
Often followed by a push (left hand under shoulder socket, elbow down, right arm still pulled to full extension – TAKE POSITION).
I will see if I can film a demo Tuesday.
Thanks for your answer! I enjoy your articles and appreciate your work with the blog.
Hi Steven! I believe I found some possible examples of Sifu Lam doing it:
Once again, thanks for your answers.
Steven Moody says
That’s the one. I think people often don’t hit here but push. You make the guy wrong (as you see in the pics) and then you can either hit with the other hand or push. There is a Sifu Lam drill called 9 Hands (?) – its the last action in a series, where you push the guy away by stepping forward and taking position.